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Ifeel so sorry for my daughter. She is getting blisters on her bum. We've been struggling with diaper rash for several months. This episode started when a sitter forgot to change her wet diaper before nap time. When she woke up she had blisters all over. I had it mostly cleared up by switching to disposables and using Desitin. This morning I changed her when she woke up. Within an hour she pooped and got blisters on her bum. I've been letting her go cover free whenever we're at home. I use fleece when I put the desitin on with a cloth diaper. It seems to improve most with disposables.
I'm washing my diapers every 3-4 days with Borax and Charlie's Soap. Sometimes I use vinegar in the last rinse. I line dry. I had her tested for allergies to/problems with the Borax and Charlie's and she was fine.
What's weird is that I changed her at about the same interval yesterday, and no problem. Do you think this is a food allergy? Have any of you had blisters on your child's bum? |
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I would try switching detergents just to be sure. Maybe she doesn't react to the detergent alone, but maybe it's something in her urine that's reacting with the detergent and irritating her?
Also have her checked for bacterial infections like impetigo or yeast. Impetigo especially usually leaves blisters like that...
Karen.
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| Just a note about the diaper cream....I've had great luck with a layer of calendula cream and then a layer or Ihle's Paste (in the first aid aisle). It doesn't seem to stain the diaper. Another thing you may want to try is using an unscented disposable at night for awhile, since that's the longest stretch she'll be in a diaper without being changed. |
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| My DS had a yeast infection, and it was blistery. Personally, i would ask the doctor. Good luck. Also I agree with PP maybe try another soap, on the the soap charts, they say people have had alergic reaction to Charlies. Good luck. Poor Baby! |
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I tried Simple Green and washing soda. That was worse. I had those tested for sensitivity too, and they caused an adverse reaction. So did the Tide that I used to use. I thought about buying some Soapnuts and trying those, but I bought a 5 gallon bucket of Charlie's that I need to use up over the next couple of years.
I've used both Nystatin and a homeopathic antifungal cream. They aren't clearing up the rash either.
I'll ask about the impetigo. It sounds like that is quite contagious, and I haven't noticed it on my hands or on any other part of her body. It sounds like I need to go into the pediatrician again. |
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| Just curious, what kind of tests are these? I've never heard of 'sensitivity' tests and I doubt this would be a true allergy as that involves the immune system (not just a skin sensitivity).
Remember also that you still might be able to use the Charlie's on regular clothing, even hers. Clothing and diapers are different in many ways so what affects her genital area skin when used on a diaper may not affect the rest of her body when used on regular clothing.
Or maybe try rinsing the heck out of the diapers when you use the Charlie's. Not necessarily a good long-term solution (waste of water and energy) but it might help during the healing period and might also help confirm or elliminate the Charlie's as the source of the problem. Is there a particular reason you're using borax? I know you mentioned that you had that tested as well but unless you have a real 'need' for it, you could try elliminating it to see if it helps. Same for the vinegar if you can. The simpler the better kwim? Too many ingredients makes it hard to nail down the exact issue.
From what I know of impetigo it can indeed be quite contagious but I would definetly not dismiss it just because it hasn't spread. From what I've read, the liquid inside the blister would be thick and honey-like and then it would form yellow crusts when it bursts.
In the same kind of quest for simplicity and determining the problem, maybe switch to all disposables for a little while if you can afford it (or maybe only at night if you suspect the nighttime diapers are the culprit). You mentioned that it always seem to help so maybe stick with it for a while, give her skin a chance to totally heal. Then if the rash continues you'll know for sure it's not the cloth diapers or your detergent. If the rash disappears, give the skin a good chance to heal completly (so you can elliminate the possibility that it was something as simple as a particularly nasty poop that irritated some still broken skin kwim?). Then try the cloth again and see how it goes. If the rash returns then you'll know it's something to do with the diapers themselves and can investigate that further.
Oh, and you mentioned that yeast treatments hadn't helped. Did you keep using the same cloth diapers while you administered the treatment? Because if so the yeast could theoretically be in the diapers and reinfecting her everytime. It's not always necessary (I successfully treated yeast on my first dd without having to treat the diapers too) but since you're having ongoing problems it might be worth thinking about. To treat diapers you need either an anti-fungal agent (tea tree oil, bleach, perhaps vinegar although it's not necessarily always 100% effective) or high heat. High heat is tricky with fitted diapers because of the elastic and snaps but involves either boiling or ironing. I might reserve bleaching or the high heat as last-ditch efforts if you're ready to chuck the diapers cause nothing else is working (all three could potentially cause harm to the diapers).
One last piece of advice, it might be time to take a really systematic approach to this. Start with a certain base (in how you wash the diapers, the foods you give her etc etc) and then change one thing at time to see what happens. Keep track of the changes you've made (write them down if you have to) and see what happens. By changing or adding just one thing at a time you can really pinpoint what helps and what makes things worse.
Karen. |
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| If it is yeast, have you tried the new Vusion ointment? It's a prescription here in the US, but boy, does that stuff work wonders. It's super expensive, $300 for a 50 gram tube, but thankfully my insurance pays for it. It's an antifungal with some white petroleum and zinc oxide. My kids are very yeasty (bad blisters and everything) and this stuff is a real lifesaver. Seems to wash out very well of cloth too. |
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| My daughter used to get this all the time. She reacted to every type of detergent we tried, until I switched to soapnuts. I wish I'd done the switch sooner. Also, I always wash her diapers at 60, 40 just wasn't enough with her ultra sensitive skin. |
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I've been doing electro-dermal testing (also known as a Meridian Stress Assessment). My doctor uses it to test allergies and also how well your body is functioning.
When the latest blisters broke out I took my dd in to see if she had problems with the soaps I was using. She reacted to the Simple Green and the washing soda.
I'm using the Borax in my initial rinse. I've found that my diapers don't smell as swampy when she pees if I use Borax in that first rinse. I could definitely cut out the Borax and the vinegar and see if it made a difference.
The blisters don't seem to be releasing any honey-like liquid, so I don't think that it impetigo. In addition there is no crust forming.
I hate switching back to disposables, but I've been thinking that's what I need to do. Last time I had a blowout; it was so frustrating. I think last time I switched I didn't wait for the skin to heal all the way. I was using the yeast cream with with the cloth, so I'll switch all the way. Do you know how much tea tree oil or vinegar I would need to kill the yeast?
We're going to the Grand Canyon this weekend, so I'll switch to disposables and use the creams and then when I get back I'll go to a more systemic approach. Life has been so hectic this week and will be next week, but after that I should have more time.
Thanks for your help and experience. |
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Yeah, cutting out the borax and vinegar is a bit of a guess. It's not typically something that causes issues but you never know, worth a try kwim?
For blowout prevention in disposables try using a diaper cover *over* the disposable. Won't prevent poop from coming out the disposable but at least it won't be all over clothing and such.
Normally I'm pretty encouraging of sticking with cloth, but when problems are this severe and long-lasting, if disposables help healing and help in the process of ellimination then maybe it's worth it. Gives you a bit of a break from the frustration too.
If you try vinegar it has to be full strenght. Diluted vinegar can be great to help rinse diapers and reestablish ph but it's not a disinfectant. Maybe try soaking a couple diapers at a time in a bucket or sink full of the stuff. Tea tree oil I'm not really sure. People who use it on an everyday basis use somewhere between 3-6 drops in the washer so definetly more than that. Going by my gut I'd say at least 20-40 drops but I don't have anything to really back that up. In a situation like this I'd say too much rather than too little, just be sure to really rinse the heck out of them afterwards.
Karen.
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| A word of caution, my daughter reacted to tea tree oil as well. But she has got very sensitive skin. |
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I took her to the pediatrician. It was a bacterial infection. The antibiotic ointment she gave me is clearing it up fairly quickly. I've heard that sun drying kills germs. Do you think that I can just leave the diapers on the line for a long time to kill anything, or should I try something else?
Thanks for all your help. Tamara |
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Glad you finally figured it out, hopefully it goes away for good now!! Did she mention why it would go away when using disposables if it was bacterial? Just curious...
As for the sun, I've heard that as well but I'm not sure how effective or reliable it is. I might try the other steps in conjunction with it just to be sure, especially considering what you've been through already...
Karen. |
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I took my dd in because she had a fever and had thrown up the night before. I figured it was a virus, but we were leaving on vacation, and I was worried about an ear infection. While we were there (and had already paid the co-pay) I asked about the diaper rash, but I didn't think to ask for her theories as to why it would heal better in disposables. I did notice that the worst blisters are outside of her disposables on her leg but inside her disposables. I assumed that was probably the reason. I'm guessing that she got a diaper rash maybe from when I used the Simple Green and the babysitter didn't change her. Then it got infected with a bacteria which we couldn't get rid of. I'm so glad that she's feeling better now.
We started cloth again yesterday, and so far so good. If it comes back then I think I will boil my diapers to kill the germs.
Thanks for your help, Tamara |
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