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Hi again ... just thought I'd ask about people's experience with CDing and day care. DS is in a home daycare, and the provider is not familiar with CDing, but willing to try. What do people do with the diapers? I was thinking she could just collect the diapers in a bag and I'd pick them up every afternoon ... even if she didn't want to deal with the poo, I could do that at home too. I hate to think of another chore at the end of a full-day, but I hate thinking about all those extra diapers in the landfill.
Anyone with experience? Thanks, this forum is great. |
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Hello,
I don't have personal experience with daycare, but I have heard feedback from several friends. I have yet to hear of a daycare provider that would deal with the poop herself; it seems to be standard to pick up the dirties at the end of the day and bring back some clean supplies in the morning. What I have heard is a lot of providers will forget to change the diaper more often than a disposables, which sometimes leads to leaks, so make sure yours knows about that or maybe put a doubler or stay-dry liner in the diapers to keep your LO dry and happy.
I would make sure I have plenty of clean covers for the daycare provider. They tend to get them dirty more often because of user error; some friends found that the daycare provider would toss the cover with the diaper at every change. So again, that's something you may want to insist on, unless you can afford to use all-in-ones at daycare.
Some people use a dry-bag at daycare, others have an actual pail. They collect it every night and bring it back every morning, along with a clean supply of diapers. Either way, make sure it's something that closes shut and won't leak!
Good luck, and hopefully all goes well! |
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I'm looking into the same thing, I go back to work on October 1 and my daughter will be 11 months in a home daycare. When I talked to the care provider, she was fine with cloth, and she actually gave me the routine for the day. She changes them at 10:30, 1 and 3:30 (whether they need it or not) and if they poop. So that works well, because that's about what I can get away with in cloth, 2.5 hours. My plan is to use disposable wipes, because that way she doesn't have to worry about wetting wash cloths (she changes diapers in a room without a sink). As well, I was going to buy two small "green bins" that are usually used to recycle organic waste, and use them as diaper pails. They seal well, because they are for compost. My care provider throws the disposable diapers in her outside garbage right away, so she said she would leave the bin outside as well, which works for me, because at night I can pick up the pail of dirties and exchange it for an empty pail (I think they cost like 8 dollars at Canadian Tire). That way if I happen to forget to bring the empty pail, I can remember in the morning. I wasn't expecting her to deal with poop, just to put them in the pail. I was also going to send 2 extra outfits in her bag each day, in case of leaks/user error (they will probably just be sleepers, we don't have that many clothes!) and I was going to send one extra cover, and ask her not to change it unless there is poop on it. I'm planning to show her how to change them, so I hope that helps her. Also, it might depend on the age of your care provider. Mine is in her early 60's, so she knows about cloth, and keeping them inside the cover etc.
Sorry for the long post, but I've been thinking a lot lately. Does anyone see any flaws in my plan? |
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Although I haven't used CD with daycare, I have done full days away and just dealt with the poopy diapers when I get home. It's not a great joy, but not too bad, either, and in some ways the poop can actually be easier to get off because it's dried a bit. I usually just leave the wipes inside the dirty diaper and separate when I deal with the poop; your provider might prefer to do that so she doesn't have to dispose of things separately.
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I guess I'm really lucky as my homecare provider rinsed off poopy diapers (she did such a good job that I couldn't tell which ones were the poopy ones!!) I had told her when we started out that she could just put everything in a wet bag, but she had used cloth with her kids (she's 50) and said that was just gross  so she started rinsing them!!
I think the key is to teach them how to use them if they've never dealt with cloth before, and they see how easy it can be! |
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| We use a home daycare and both our regular sitter and our backup sitter have no issues with the cloth diapers- in fact they were impressed how easy it is and the one wants to do it with her next child because of the lack of diaper rash. We use prefolds and Sandy's diapers (the Sandy's are generally just used for naps and bedtime). Both babysitters had never even saw a CD before us so we just taught them the fold w/ snappi and put the cloth wipe and diaper in the bag and that's it. I don't ask them to dump the poop because then they'd have to walk away, etc. and I'm trying to make it easy so I just flush it when I get home. Not to mention, sometimes I do think it solidifies more as it sits so I get more poop off when I shake. I found when we interviewed sitters, I never told them before hand on the phone that we CD, I waited until we met in person and then showed them the diapers- that made a huge difference. |
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Some great info here ... thanks!
Ha ha ... I agree "older" poop is easier to deal with since its cooled down and more solid. I'd forgotten that when DS's poop was softer I used to let it cool down on purpose and then it seemed to just peel off the diaper.
I like the compost bucket idea.
Most of the daycare providers I'd talked to had never even seen a cloth diaper. Amazes me, but I'm a little older and had to change my younger brother's cloth diapers. But all were willing to try it. The lady where I buy my cloth diapers said she just told me this is what I use and was never questioned.
Jacks1st: Good luck when you go back to work. The first day is tough, but it gets easier fairly quickly. |
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As a childcare provider myself, it can be interesting at first to get used to the CD routine. But really most in home people would be willing to at least try it. Sometimes centers can be iffy since they have so many more rules & regs due to being corporate(their state licensing requirements are not that different for center vs home) I had never seen a cloth diaper until I started watching a little adopted Asian girl who wore Chinese prefolds & pins & plastic covers. We just used grocery plastic bags for each diaper. Poo was just a shake off affair as mom used posie liners. I did change her more often because she felt wet sooner than a posie kid, but it was no biggie. Mom did not ask me if I would or wouldn't use cloth, she just showed up day 1 with them on & wrote down how to change her. I guess I never thought I had the right to tell a mother what she could/couldn't use on her child.
Plus, they must have made a good impression on me, cause here I am 7 years later using CD on my second boy! Poor mama though....she would've loved a diaper sprayer!
Anyway, make it as easy as possible for her & yourself. It isn't any harder than posies, just different.
JMO, but I find using CD with posie wipes is actually more complicated. We keep our son's washcloth wipes in a normal posie wipe box(you can fold them pop-up style if you'd like, google it & try it!) and with 15-20 wipes already wet with plain tap water, you will run out before they get stale smelling. Then she could just wrap the wipes in with the dipe & be done with it. We use posie wipes when out & about because they won't fit in my Patemm pad. I hate it! If I could figure out how to make 3-5 cloth wipes fit in there, I'd be so happy. |
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My DD has been in part time DC for the past year and our DC has no issues with CD's at all. In fact is has gone way better than I anticipated. I typically send DD in either a PF or a ME OS and a cover. They then change her into pocket diapers with velcro since its quicker and the closest to sposies & I really wanted to make it as easy on them as possible. Depending on who changes DD depends on if they dump the poop or not, it's no problem doing it at home after. I send a wet bag for them to put the CD's in so it's harder to mix them up with garbage and such. (The new girl threw out a GM last year grrrrr) You can also add disposable liners to the diapers so they can just flush those with the poop.
All in all it's totally doable and i love it. |
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Okay Ladies, I just wanted to briefly tell you what happened to some of my diapers at my son's home daycare....it was a comedy of errors, but the babysitter would put them in a plastic bag for me on the porch at the end of everyday. Another mom picked them up, thinking they were garbage, and BURNED them! I think she burns garbage for electricity, or something like that. Three OS diapers and liners! I was stunned. She offered to pay for them, but I shrugged it off. I was so mad, until I vented here on the forum and felt better.
I tried two different kinds of pails, but the sitter preferred the plactic bag method. I think if I had known about wetbags, that would have worked well and I could have avoided having my diapers BURNED! |
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oh no!! that sucks big time. Having lost a diaper at DC I feel your pain. definately look into a wet bag. sorry to hear about your fluff  |
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We've had a great experience with our large registered centre. My child was the first they'd had in the infant room, and now I see one or two more in her toddler room. I sent a small bummi's wetbag every morning with some clean ones, put them in her diaper basket along with a ziploc of moistened cloth wipes, and we have a little garbage pail that I put the wetbag into. At the end of the day, we pick up the bag and take it home. They shake off some poop if it's a little blob (usually not , my kid eats too many fruits and veggies!) and we use the diaper sprayer to get off the rest. We have 2 bags, and wash every 2 days. It works like a charm! No complaints, just the occasional cover on backwards, or once we found her in a dipe with NO cover at all! (but only once in 2 years!)
It's worth asking, and totally doable. Once they get used to it, I don't think it's any more work for them, just a few seconds extra to snap on the cover.
The only time we had to send sposies was during a public-health declared diarrheal illness outbreak at the centre - obvious you have to keep your kid home while they're sick, but she wasn't allowed to use her CDs there during the time they were declare "on outbreak status". They said it was public health rules, so we just didn't argue that. |
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The burned diaper story is too funny! (But dang expensive!)
So far its going all right, but he's going through a few more clothes. He's a pretty heavy wetter - he drinks and drinks and drinks. He's a milk baby, but still likes to have juice and water. Anyways, I think its just a matter of remembering that there isn't as much lee-way with a cloth diaper.
Thanks for the stories! |
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I've been back almost a month, and so far all has gone well, except...
The one and only day I forget to take extra clothes, she pees through her diaper and all her clothes get wet(the day care lady forgot to change her...oops) so she spends the day in another child's shorts (it's only 2 degrees Celsius at the moment) and no onesie. Needless to say they spent the rest of the day in a warm room...
Other than that, a few diapers have been put on inside out, one or two have had no snaps done up, and once she came home with her onesie snapped inside her diaper (like tucking her t-shirt in her underwear)...but it's been good. Definitely worth trying. |
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| My boys were in daycare in both Sandy's and AIO. It was their first time ever having a child in cloth. My main issue was when someone new was in the room or subbing we ended up with leaks. The people just couldn't seem to understand that diaper sticking out from the cover means the diaper will leak. Our other issue was what to do with soiled diapers. The director was a bit strange and at first we just put them in an empty five gallon paint bucket with lid (purchased from Home Depot). I took this home each night and brought it back the next day. Then the director decided she needed to individually wrap each diaper. So I provided empty plastic gocery bags for this. Then she needed a hands free diaper pail so I got a cheap one at Babies R Us. Then I was tired of getting the pail in my car each night and started using a wet bag. Thankfully I was then able to convince the director to not use the individual plastic bags anymore. However, I did ask them to keep putting soiled diapers in plastic bags because it would make them easier to find each night. At no time did they rinse diapers for me (and I did not expect it). I did freak out a couple of times when they wrapped the diapers in their gloves (they do this with disposables) and as I reached in the washer to put the diapers in the dryer I wasn't even looking at screamed thinking I was touching some dead animal. Looking back it's funny! My boys are now at a preschool in their cloth. One other preschool said no cloth (giving one excuse after another and finally gave me no reason after I solved each of those previous reasons they couldn't allow cloth) and I'm actually considering making a stink out of it for discrimination based on socio-economic status. (I CAN'T afford disposables even for two and a half days a week and not allowing my boys at a public special ed preschool because I can't afford those is, in my mind, discromination.) So the preschool where my boys go was more than willing to work with me. I now have the boys in AIOs at preschool just because it's easier for them, I have enough, and we're sort of potty training (so these can be pulled off and on). The people actually love these diapers now! At first there were a couple times when a ton of the fabric would be flipped over and we had huge leaks. Someone else only did two snaps instead of four (never resulted in a leak). Now they have it down and I love it how much they like the diapers! My boys both hate laying down for diaper changes and the staff loves how easy it is to change these diapers standing up. The boys are only there for three hours twice a week so they usually have one or no wet diapers each. They just put these in a wet bag and then into their backpacks for me. The boys have never had a soiled diaper there, but I wouldn't expect them to rinse it. Oh, and at daycare we had some diapers on inside out. I did always send disposable wipes except a few times when one of the boys had abad diaper rash I sent my cloth ones. The boys did tend to get diaper rash from the disposable wipes and I wish I had asked them to use the cloth ones all the time. At home I never wipe the boys with just pee and at diaper they wiped with every diaper. At preschool they wipe kids with every diaper, but I don't think they do my boys. Also, I have had the whole thing of onesies inside diapers and all that. I also lost at least one diaper at daycare. I started counting when we would come home at night. (There were some big issues at this daycare and this was just one of many of them.) |
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