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  melaleuca (susnrob)
Posted: 7:16:15 pm on 1/20/2010 Modified: Never
 
Is it safe to use melaleuca laundry detergent with cloth diapers?  I have 3 children and we have confirmed that 1 is allergic to cats.  2 of our children have asthma like symptoms several times a year.  We are in the process of getting allergy testing done to see what other environmental allergies they may have.  I have heard that melaleuca laundry detergent is good for those with allergies.  I'm just wondering if it is safe to use on CD and if it actually works well on CD.  The best detergent we've found for CD so far is regular Tide and I really hate using it as I know it isn't environmentally friendly.  We've tried so many other detergents.....most of them more natural detergents and we always end up with diaper stink issues.  

A friend of mine is letting me borrow a few of her MEOS to try on my DD.  DD is ready to size up and we're considering switching to MEOS.  We primarily use prefolds now and will probably still get a dozen of the next size prefolds as well.  Liking the MEOS so far.  The AF cover is great too!
  Re: melaleuca (KarenC)
Posted: 8:18:07 pm on 1/20/2010 Modified: Never
 
According to a certain website's list of detergents, Melaleuca isn't the best to use with cloth diapers. Not the worst, but on their 'caution' list if I remember correctly. I don't have the link right now (switched computers and haven't switched all my links yet) but you could likely find it previous detergents discussions.

That said a friend of mine cloth diapered for over a year using that detergent and never had any problems.

Generally speaking 'natural' detergents aren't always the best to use with cloth. Some just don't have enough 'power' to get them clean enough and others have plant oil based cleansers that easily build up in diapers (causing odors).

The website I mentioned lists all kinds of major detergents, that could be a good start.

Personally I'd also recomend soap nuts (they're not real 'nuts' far as I know so those allergic to peanuts and such shouldn't be susceptible to them - might want to double check that but I'm pretty sure). Totally natural, cleans effectively (at most a small minority seem to benefit from adding a touch of washing soda) and leave no build-up.

Karen.
  Re: melaleuca (susnrob)
Posted: 8:59:39 pm on 1/20/2010 Modified: Never
 
I know which website of detergents you are speaking of.  I guess it might end up being one of those trial and error type of things.  FWIW I will be using prefolds and MEOS so I know those are less likely to have build up than say a pocket diaper with the microfiber inserts.  I have been using CD for about 3.5 years straight now and have tried a lot of detergents.  I've always been ISO the most natural detergent I can use that actually works on the diapers.  I'm guessing that Tide isn't the best for those with allergies.  I did try soap nuts before, but wasn't really sure if I liked how they worked.  I think I still have some left so maybe I'll try them again.  Exactly how do you use them?  Maybe I wasn't doing it right.  Do you reuse them several times?  How do you know when they are no longer effective?
  Re: melaleuca (KarenC)
Posted: 9:20:23 pm on 1/20/2010 Modified: 9:21:26 pm on 1/20/2010
 
Probably true to a certain extent. The high amount of synthetic in pockets means that build-up happens easier and the consequences are worse. But fitteds and prefolds can still get stinky build-up, it's just that it takes longer and they're not likely to repel because of it.

The soap nuts have been great for me. They do work best in hot water and the first use is always the 'strongest' so to speak. You can use them up to about 2-4 times total (probably depending how hot your water is and how many nuts you're using). You can usually see them starting to get lighter and a lot mushier/falling apart when they're starting to be finished.

Some do use only 'fresh' nuts on diapers and then re-use the used ones for clothing. You can also add a little washing soda (a tablespoon or two is plenty) to up the cleaning power a bit and add a very ligh fresh scent. The lack of any scent at all does throw some people off I think.

Some also make (or buy) soap nut liquid by boiling the nuts in water for a little while. I don't have a real recipe off hand but it's something like a few cups of water and 3-4 nuts for about 5 minutes. Then you wouldn't have to worry about figuring out when they're done or not, you'd just follow the recipe and use the recomended amount of liquid. I know some places even sell soap nut liquid, that would be the absolute easiest and surest (even if not the cheapest) thing.

And for what it's worth, if Tide works for you (maybe the 'free' version for your little ones' sensitivities?) then there's nothing wrong with that. You can always use a more eco-friendly detergent for clothing and such. Better to use a less friendly detergent with cloth rather than have to constantly battle stink, rashes or the temptation to quit.

Karen.
  Re: melaleuca (susnrob)
Posted: 12:24:00 am on 1/21/2010 Modified: Never
 
I agree about the build up on cotton diapers.  We've had it and it does typically take a while to happen.  I still have some soap nuts left in the laundry room.  Maybe I'll try them out on my next load of diapers.  I'll get some washing soda too.  I really appreciate the advise.  

Yes, the reason I am using tide now is because it works and I don't want the headache of diaper stink and build up.  if the soap nuts don't work then maybe i'll try the tide f&c for the diapers and then just use something more natural for the rest of the household laundry.  

i did make soap nut liquid before and used it for cleaning.  i think i saw a recipe online somewhere.  

thank you!  
  Re: melaleuca (KarenC)
Posted: 9:42:18 am on 1/21/2010 Modified: Never
 
Yeah, I wouldn't beat yourself up too much over using Tide, especially if it's just for diapers. Give the soap nuts a good shot and if they don't work for you then just stick with what does.

One note about the soap nuts, one reason some don't think they clean as well is because they don't whiten the same way that most mainstream detergents do (which is by leaving a film of UV brighteners that reflect light and make clothing appear brighter/whiter). You can help whiten and remove stains by using Oxy-Clean. Some have concerns about it's long term safety in terms of perhaps shortening a fabric's lifespan (and I think that ME don't recomend it) but it is very popular and some cloth diaper stores/manufacturers do recomend it and say it's perfectly safe. Up to you how you feel about that but it could be used instead of washing soda (it's mostly made washing soda anyway) with every wash or you could only use it every so often when you feel they could use a little boost of brightness or stain removal.

Karen.
  Re: melaleuca (susnrob)
Posted: 10:23:41 am on 1/21/2010 Modified: Never
 
Thank you, Karen, you've been very helpful.  If you hadn't mentioned soap nuts I don't think I would have remembered that I still had some in the laundry room.  I've got a load of diapers in there now with soap nuts.

You're right about Tide.  I do like how it works. It does keep the clothing looking very clean, but I don't like the idea of a film of brighteners left on the clothing.  That can't be all that great for asthmatic children.....or anyone for that matter.  
 
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