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| I originally loved the snaps on ME diapers because it would be harder for baby to take his diaper off but will that be difficult for potty training then? Or are you able to pull diapers up and down with the snaps engaged? What do you guys do? |
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I don't think anyone expects their toddlers to undo the snaps when potty training. Many kids can undo the snaps without problems by that time but even then it would slow them down too much. It would be way too frustrating...
If they fit loose enough they can be pulled up/down. If not that's when training pants come in handy (or maybe some Toddle-Ease if you think you can subsequently use them for nighttime). Or just letting them go naked around the house. Then training pants or diapers (for the very very early stages) when out and about. That's what I did with mine and it's much easier than dealing with diapers or training pants all the time (nothing to pull up/down etc...). You do end up with some messes on the floor so if you have expensive carpet everywhere this might not be the best solution.
Karen. |
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| great topic! i am wondering that myself. my son is walking now so i want to start potty training him because honestly i am very very sick of dealing with a straining when trying to poop baby, along with the poopy diapers when he does manage to poop in them. it just seems to me as if the diaper is a barrior that stops the poop from freely coming out for my son. what would you suggest for potty training? we cannot afford ME training pants at all. and he seems to be interested in the toilet judging on how he lifts the lid up and down and plays in the clean toilet bowl. |
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| Aha - I knew I'd be able to attract you, fire dancer. Was curious to see how your potty training was going. I try to put DS on the potty every morning and when he wakes from naps, before baths and if his diaper is dry. I couldn't believe it today, he was dry after his nap but no pee. So we went and had lunch. Then I went to check his diaper and he was still dry so I put him on the potty and he had a big pee! Ideally, I would love to train him while we are on vacation at the cabin next month but if he's not ready, I'll try again at Christmas. I'm not sure he is ready as he doesn't undress himself. I swear he was saying "pee, pee, pee" in the car today though. |
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| to be honest, it is not going very well. my ds pees on the potty when he feels like it. |
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| Don't be discouraged. You're just getting him used to it. My DS doesn't always pee and if he really does not want to stand on the potty, he screams at me. Some of my friends' kids don't even pee in the potty yet! |
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Just wanted to chime in here. I know that some people define potty-trained as when a child can get him/herself toileted indepedently, but I'm glad that I didn't wait for the ability to dress/undress. I read a guide to PTing that stressed the mechanics of underwear up and down, but I'm glad I didn't try to tie the two concepts together, as for my boys it would have really complicated the issue. I think that kids can be really different about this, but my 3.5-year-old is still somewhat mystified by pulling up his own pants (and don't even think about shirts). My first son was out of diapers by 26 months, although that did mean I was taking him to the toilet every few hours. Maybe that's not perfectly potty-trained, but hey, no more poopy diapers. My second son was much slower to get it, and was sporadically resistant, so I just kept him in diapers, eventually without the covers, and took him regularly to the toilet (when he didn't fight it). He couldn't do normal underwear up/down anyway, so my having to be involved to take the diapers up/down was no big deal. Some kids are very independent and want to do this themselves, but for mine it was just a non-issue.
I do think that just getting them used to the idea of using the potty is a good intro to PTing. For my first son, pooping on the toilet came first, because that occurred at fairly predictable times. I think that if a child has predictable timing (as waking up dry from nap), that's a great time to try for it, but if they're resistant, you don't want to turn it into a battle. |
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| Oh, re. original question about snaps: DS#1 was too chunky to be able to pull either the OS or L Sandys up and down. But we still used them as underwear during the learning process. Maybe because he didn't have older siblings or because he just didn't care, it wasn't a big deal. It did mean that toilet visits were basically like diaper changes, only reusing the diaper when he was dry. Once he was completely dry and dependable, I switched to underwear. But he was completely unmotivated by the idea of underwear, so it didn't mattter. DS #2 really wanted the underwear, but kept having poop accidents even after staying dry, so I went back to diapers w/o a cover for him, to make cleanup easier. DS#2 was very skinny, so we could pull the OS (and L Sandys, but I used the OS because it's slimmer) up and down like underwear. He probably couldn't have, but, as mentioned, he couldn't do it with undies anyway. |
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Our daughter (almost 18 mos) is starting to notice the potty, along with when she is peeing & pooping. She's used the potty we have in the bathroom for her by herself a few times (she's naked in the house quite a bit). I've been thinking about doing more scheduled trips to the potty and have heard that after night & nap is a good time, but our daughter is VERY cranky when she wakes up. Very, VERY cranky! We usually leave her for a good 10-15 minutes to whine & wail before she's ready to see or talk to anyone. By this time she's already peed in the diaper.
Any thoughts on that?
Thanks! |
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I have been potty training DD (27 months) since Christmas. We have ME training pants and I find they work way better then working with snaps. Quick up and Quick down. She often goes on the potty without telling me, so whatever makes it easier for her. BUT She also went through a time when she was just naked, probably 2 months! If I had anything on her, she'd pee in it. Now that she knows she can pee on the potty, she knows to pull down the TPs.
Sometimes they tell you 'Mama, PEE' and you don't have time to fuss with snaps. Bottom line in my case.
Good luck and hang in there. Don't feel like you have failed if it doesn't work out this time. They'll figure it out soon enough. |
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| Alexis57, if your DD is terribly cranky after waking up, I'd give that time a miss. Yes, usually a great time to get them on the potty if they've stayed dry, but it could turn the potty into a battle, which you don't want. Maybe instead you could try to notice other regular times--perhaps she typically poops shortly after dinner? Or just make it part of the routine every hour or two and see what happens? |
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So in case anyone cares...I started potty training DS (19 months) on Friday with only underwear. I noticed a change in his peeing habit from standing or sitting to squatting so that the pee streamed to the ground instead of down his legs. That was quite the progress. However, I didn't notice any improvement on day 2 and I was getting so frustrated. I hate when it isn't in your control and I'm not so patient these days. It's hard to keep an eye on them all day and stay housebound too! So today I had him naked waist down. He peed sitting in a chair! I figured I would give up so I went to the mall to get my eyebrows done. DH reported that DS peed in the potty after his nap after dribbling in 2 spots and then when DH put him on the potty, he peed. I was excited again. A couple hours later, I put him on the potty before his bath and he peed a lot! I was very excited! So maybe it won't be so bad after all. However, he peed in his diaper twice during bedtime (I put him to bed but he didn't sleep right away). He's with my mom tomorrow for the next few weeks. We were on vacation for the past month. She is interested to work with him so we'll see how it goes...not overly optimistic but see what she reports tomorrow.
Fire dancer - congrats on #2! |
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meisiu thanks so much. it is odd because i am definitely pregnant, but i am hardly getting any nausea or major smell sensativities at all unlike the first pregnancy with my ds.i still have a bad aversion to barbecue like i did with my first pregnancy though. i have a good feeling that we will have a daughter this time. i really would love to get ds pted before #2 is born in march but i am not sure if he will take to it anymore because there has been a high level of stress in this house for the past few weeks because we are getting ready to move, and the move date has been pushed back twice already because we are dealing with the devision of blind services who are paying to relocate us for dh's new job.
now our new move in date is this upcoming sunday if DBS does not push us getting the relocation check back any farther. ds has definitely been sensing our stress as well. just to let you all know, we took his crib down, and now he crawls onto his mattress on the floor and goes to sleep without any fuss. it is great. we are doing this to prepare him for a regular bed so that #2 can have the crib after a month of cosleeping to nurse on demand. i am planning on nursing 2 like i did with ds whom i am still nursing at almost 18 months. i am just a bit apprehensive about nursing 2 children if ds is not completely off of the breast by the time #2 gets here. |
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| Alexis, I have the SAME problem...my son is 25 months and 95% of the time wakes up so cranky he sits and sort of sulks for like 20 mins. Then he's happy and wonderful, but his diaper (which is dry when he wakes up) is soaked. When he does wake up happy he'll often pee on the potty. We're saying that's good enough for now. |
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fire dancer - they say there can be a relapse if something major happens, say #2 comes along. It might be better to wait to pt. It was definitely too early to pt DS this time around. I will wait for Christmas and see if he's waking up dry. He's been very resistant lately - screaming at me when I put him on the potty.
Good for you for nursing DS! I finally weaned DS at 18 months. He skipped a few feedings so then I knew it was time. It was still emotional - there were a few tears from him and I missed it immediately but it's nice to be done.
Congrats on him sleeping on a mattress! I'm happy to keep DS in the crib until I have to move him - probably if I do pt him.
Good luck with your move! |
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| the main blind services office in tallahassee overnighted my husband's relocation check and now he is riding to our local office on his bike to pick it up so we will be definitely moving on sunday woohoo finally! yeah ds screams every time we put him on the potty now as well, but also resists the diapers sometimes too. he does not kick and push these away like he used to do with disposables, but when he sees me bring a diaper out, he cries and resists the whole changing process. i am not sure if it is because he is getting ready to pt, or if toddlers just hate diapering in general when they could be up playing or something. i am telling you though, wet cloth has to be alot more comfortable between the legs than a full to capasity gel filled diaper that gets bigger and bigger as the child wets and becomes almost like a solid gel block between the legs. eeew that sounds extremely disgusting just thinking about that. |
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fire dancer - Up until about 17 months, I used to stand DS on the potty all the time and he would pee quite often for me. However, after 18 months, he just screams at me. He also resists diaper changes now too - rolling around, kicking, etc. I think it must be that toddler stage where they would rather play than be on their backs. Often, I am snapping up DS's diaper while he's standing or whatever - chasing him down. At the same time, in the last few months, he has started saying "pee" and when you check his diaper, he is freshly wet! Then again, I think about how much I love the cloth and wonder why I'm in a hurry to pt. The ME diapers are so cute!
I know what you mean about the disposables and I agree with your comment somewhere about how you cannot believe how some mommies leave their babes in disposables for hours at a time!!! This year when we went on vacation (10h drive), I used cloth all the way! I was so excited. I only put a disposable on him at night so that I didn't have a soaking wet pee diaper to carry the next morning. I just have a small wetbag which I can stuff about 5 diapers into. Otherwise, I hadn't used disposables since last summer when we were travelling although I think MIL may have put a disposable on DS once while she was babysitting. |
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| This summer I visited several friends with kids in disposables, and I was really surprised (read, appalled and grossed out) by how long they'd leave their kids in diapers, even poopy ones. I can understand why, when they're so expensive, parents tend to leave wet ones on for too long, but seriously, some of these were hanging way down because they were so heavy with pee. Ick. |
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| I think what I'd originally meant to comment before I was grossed out by remembering those disposables, was that my older son became very resistant to diaper changes around eighteen months, and sometimes we just had to pin him down--pretty unfun. He did PT just a bit over two, and in some ways, I think we caught his sweet spot, as later I think he would have been resistant, but by then it was just habit already. My younger son didn't fight diaper changes, and started PTing just fine, but suddenly became very resistant to using the toilet or potty, around 28 months or so. I decided not to battle him, just wait him out and get him on the toilet when I could. It's worth wrestling a bit to get a diaper on, if that's the goal, but to me, not worth fighting a kid to use the potty, since it just turns it into a power play that you can't really win. |
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| yeah that is in my opinion, child abuse to leave kids in disposable diapers that are so full of pee that they sag really far down like that. and leaving a child in a poopy diaper should be punishable by law. that is extremely unsanitary and is perfect conditions for extremely bad diaper rashes. i hope you expressed to your friends your distaste at seeing that kind of treatment to our youngest people who are defenseless and do not deserve that kind of cruel treatment. and as far as snapping up his diaper when he is moving and standing up, that is very hard for me to do. and yes, when he does freshly pee, he says potty. sorry about the disposable diaper and bad parenting mini rant it is just, things like that make me disgusted and sick and to me, screams "EXTREME LAZINESS." just because the diaper gives the illusion of driness even when it is clearly not, parents leave the thing on until it is bursting at the hot glued scemes. |
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