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  at my whits end with leaking. (Fire Dancer)
Posted: 5:21:28 pm on 10/11/2010 Modified: Never
 
hey all. my ds is in the new Laf covers that i bought off of someone on this board. however, my son leaks out of those just like he did with the ML ones. i have him on the middle leg snaps on the L covers. but just a few minutes ago, we get back from the store and my mother says to me that he totally soaked through his diaper. and sure enough, he did. is this compression leaking from sitting in a rear facing carseat or something? the same thing happened this morning with the morning diaper even when i had a snap in liner in it. same leg snap settings and everything. this is the 2nd day in a row that i had to do his bedding because of diaper leaks.    and if it is worth noting, both times, this morning, and just now when we got back from the store, his diaper was completely saturated. and if it is also worth noting, i just changed his diaper before we left for the store. we were gone for only an hour or so.  i tried putting PFs inside the diaper, but those either bunch up or shift.  i am seriously reaching the end of my rope here. what can i do? i really do not want this to continue and we absolutely cannot afford disposables and still live as comfortably as we do considering that we both get money from the government.  my mother suggested that we may benefit from going back to disposables. i feel like such a failure at cding.
  Re: at my whits end with leaking. (KarenC)
Posted: 7:16:38 pm on 10/11/2010 Modified: Never
 
Are you adding a liner to every daytime diaper as we've suggested in the past? If the diaper is saturated then it's saturated, it just plain can't absorb anymore so you need to add liners.

Don't worry about shifting with a prefold or unsnapped liner. It may shift a tiny bit but nothing that will affect performance or comfort. I've used all kinds of liners, doublers, pocket inserts and prefolds in my diapers and at most they might be a smidge crooked when I take off the diaper but nothing to worry about. Same with bunching, it's normal and not something that affects performance. Something as large/thick as a prefold will cause more bulk of course but most kids don't care. You could always save the bulkier options for nighttime.

Just add more absorbency. A liner with *every* daytime diaper and more than one for nighttime. If you don't have enough liners then use the infant prefolds you have or even a couple of washcloths if you have to. Or save the liners for daytime and double diaper at night. Or get some cheap flannel receiving blankets to use as liners in nighttime diapers. But if the diaper is saturated and then leaks, it's because it doesn't have enough absorbency.

I doubt these are compression leaks, especially considering the diaper is always saturated when it leaks. Cotton (or hemp or bamboo) are not subject to compression leaks like microfiber pocket inserts sometimes are. And you wouldn't have compression leaks at nighttime...

Karen.
  Re: at my whits end with leaking. (ontariangirl)
Posted: 10:09:55 pm on 10/11/2010 Modified: Never
 
I agree with Karen -- you will need to add extra liners.  My kids never complained about bulky diapers!

I don't remember how old you little guy is, but perhaps it's time to try some potty training.  I find putting my little ones on in the morning or a little while after they have had some juice helps a lot!

Good luck!

Julie
  Re: at my whits end with leaking. (Erika)
Posted: 11:06:24 am on 10/12/2010 Modified: 2:32:58 pm on 10/12/2010
 
If the same diaper cover leaks more than once for no apparent reason your cover has expired.  There is no need to stuff the diaper with extra liners as that will not help once the cover has expired.  The cover needs to be replaced with a new one and I guarantee that will work.  

You take more of a risk buying used covers as you often can not tell how long they've been used/expired.

Erika Froese
  Re: at my whits end with leaking. (KarenC)
Posted: 12:10:25 pm on 10/12/2010 Modified: 12:12:55 pm on 10/12/2010
 
Well, just to be clear I wasn't suggesting stuffing each diaper with tons of liners. But one liner per daytime diaper and 2 or more for nighttime seems pretty reasonable to me. It's certainly not an uncommon need and happened to me with my twins when using the One-Size (without a liner they'd totally soak the diaper in just one pee).

I guess expired covers are a possibility although knowing that the diaper is saturated each time makes me think not enough absorbency way before it makes me thing expired cover. If nothing else making sure the diaper doesn't get oversaturated (by adding absorbency) is a much cheaper way of checking to see what the problem is rather than just assuming it's the cover and buying more when it may not be necessary.

If you can tell if the leaks originate at the leg or the middle of the crotch then that will help narrow things down as well. If it's the leg then I'd say it's more likely a lack of absorbency (the diaper is saturated, can't absorb anymore so it goes out the nearest 'exit' which is the legs or perhaps the waist/back if baby is lying down). If it originates in the middle of the crotch then that's another story and there's pretty much no doubt that it's the cover since even if the diaper is saturated no wetness should ever leak *through* the cover.

You can also test out covers by putting a clean but very wet (saturated but not dripping of course) diaper or towel inside a cover and seeing if moisture comes through the cover. Obviously if it does then the problem is the cover.

Karen.
  Re: at my whits end with leaking. (aavt)
Posted: 2:20:47 pm on 10/12/2010 Modified: Never
 
I have to agree with Karen about the saturation indicating a need for absorbency.   The newer covers are from me, and while one can never guarantee a used cover, their partners of the same age and treatment are still functioning perfectly with night diapers.  
My older son needed a booster/liner with each and every OS from about 8 months or so until he was maybe 17 months or so (when he was weaned, and his fluid intake decreased dramatically), or I would have leaks even after a very reasonable changing interval, like an hour.  Somehow that liner in there makes a big difference.  With him it wasn't about the time so much as just needing the absorbency there when he did let it all go.  
From what you've said in the past about sopping diapers and urine even being left in the covers themselves, it sounds like your son is a very heavy wetter indeed.  
  Re: at my whits end with leaking. (Fire Dancer)
Posted: 4:18:35 pm on 10/12/2010 Modified: Never
 
hey. the liquid was coming from the legs and soaking the middle of the cover from there. i did a liquid test and the covers seem to be water tight. i guess it depends on how much liquid he drinks or something because he was not leaking at all this morning although his diaper was almost to the point of saturation. i will try the 2 liner deal at nights when he has had alot to drink and see if that helps.  what about letting him go to sleep in a wet diaper though? whenever i set him up with a night time diaper,it seems as if he always wets it before falling asleep, prompting me to set another night time diaper up and rediaper him.  also, it seems when he wets his diaper at night, he always wakes up wanting a change even with an sd liner.
  Re: at my whits end with leaking. (KarenC)
Posted: 5:30:37 pm on 10/12/2010 Modified: Never
 
For the night I guess it depends on what he's doing when you think he needs an additional change. If it's not too disruptive then sure it's always 'best' to start the night with a diaper as dry as possible. But if it's too inconvenient or disruptive then don't worry about it, just add a third liner if necessary and let him go to sleep... If that causes an additional wake up for a change then I guess you'll just have to judge which change is less disruptive or less trouble, the one just before he falls asleep or the later one. Remember also that if he has that second liner in there that he might generally be more comfortable. A slightly wet diaper (+liners) has to be more comfortable than a sopping wet one so he might not wake up for that change with the 2nd or 3rd liner.

For daytime I wouldn't even worry about trying to match the liners with when he drinks more. There's no harm or real disadvantage to having one in each diaper and it's such a simple step (you don't even need to snap it if you don't want to) that it's not worth the risk imo. Better safe than sorry kwim?

Karen.
 
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